
Digital Nexus
Dive into the thrilling world of data, digital, and AI with your superhero hosts, Chris and Mark. These dynamic duo consultants have built digital wonders in Australia and beyond. They wield their innovation powers at Digital Village and NotCentralised, respectively, bringing you the news, views, and opinions that are simply out of this world.
Mark Monfort, the tech wizard behind the @AusDefi Association and NotCentralised, isn't just a name—he's a legend. With blockchain fin-tech victories under his belt, he's now on a quest to build the ultimate #LLM, SIKE.ai, enhancing business workflows and securing data like a true digital sorcerer. Nothing can stop him!
Chris Sinclair, the design guru and UX/CX mastermind, knows the secrets of digital innovation and business strategy like the back of his hand. Partnered with Digital Village, a league of specialists leading the charge in product development and innovation, Chris is here to prove that the old ways of working are no match for the future!
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Digital Nexus
8 | AI is worse than humans!
Join Chris and Mark in Episode 8 of the Digital Nexus Podcast as they catch up after a month-long hiatus, sharing their recent adventures and diving deep into the latest advancements in AI technology. From Amazon's investment in AI to the ethical implications of "deadbots," this episode covers a wide range of topics. Don't miss out on the fast news updates and shoutouts to the community!
Timestamps:
- 00:07 - Introduction and Catch-Up
- 01:34 - Chris's Adventures and New AI Projects
- 03:06 - Mark's Trip to Vancouver and New York
- 04:23 - Discussion on Risk-Taking in Innovation
- 06:52 - Non-Committal Mentality in Sydney
- 08:13 - Black Friday and Day of the Dead
- 10:01 - News Updates: AI, Crypto, and More
- 10:57 - Amazon's Investment in AI and Claude AI
- 12:39 - Core Anthropic Updates and GitHub Integration
- 18:08 - Ethical Implications of "Deadbots"
- 20:38 - AI Regulations and Australia's Proposed AI Guardrails
- 34:28 - Chain of Thought Processes in AI Models
- 38:46 - Fast News: Tesla's AI Bot, Facebook's Controversy, Nvidia's Stock Market Loss
- 48:31 - OpenAI's Financial Struggles and Capital Raise
- 52:49 - Bing's Deepfake Scrubbing Tools and Google's New Photo Search
- 55:26 - AI in Financial Transactions and Coinbase's AI Bots
- 01:02:24 - Shoutouts and Community Engagement
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<b>I'm gonna trust it.</b><b>Let's go.</b><b>Let's go.</b><b>I do need a new laptop.</b><b>You've always told me anyway.</b><b>Episode eight, we're here.</b><b>What's going on?</b><b>It's been a while.</b><b>It's been a while.</b><b>Getting back, back again.</b><b>We are back.</b><b>J.D's back.</b><b>Tell a friend.</b><b>Hey.</b><b>You can't copyright.</b><b>If how you sing sounds like copyrighted</b><b>material, can they copyright that?</b><b>I don't think so.</b><b>Right?</b><b>We'll find out.</b><b>Unless your voice is really good.</b><b>Unless we use 11Labs to</b><b>actually sound like some shady.</b><b>Anyway.</b><b>Um.</b><b>Is it been two weeks?</b><b>Three weeks?</b><b>It's been over three, I think.</b><b>Almost four.</b><b>What's a month?</b><b>It's been a month.</b><b>How does that happen?</b><b>Oh, you've had an adventure.</b><b>I've had an adventure.</b><b>You've had an adventure.</b><b>We've both had some adventures over the</b><b>last month and it's...</b><b>But good adventures.</b><b>To adventures and to...</b><b>What is this?</b><b>You've given us some brain power.</b><b>Focus.</b><b>Brain power.</b><b>Ginger shots.</b><b>Cheers.</b><b>Callumancy.</b><b>Is like um, kumquats.</b><b>Which uh...</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Little limes.</b><b>Little hits of vitamin C.</b><b>Callumancy is Filipino.</b><b>I love you.</b><b>Yeah, that's my Filipino friends.</b><b>And family, etc.</b><b>Thank you very much.</b><b>Oh my god.</b><b>What else to talk about?</b><b>Jesus.</b><b>Uh, where do we start?</b><b>How are you?</b><b>I'm good.</b><b>Okay.</b><b>I'm very good.</b><b>Episode 8.</b><b>I've been busy.</b><b>Work has taken up a lot of time.</b><b>I've been working with businesses on integrating.</b><b>Fantastic.</b><b>And a lot of use of AI in that process</b><b>which has been very exciting.</b><b>A lot of...</b><b>So, it was more than usual.</b><b>More than usual.</b><b>So, it's more of a massive proof case of</b><b>AI in product</b><b>development in general which is</b><b>a lot of stuff I've been talking about</b><b>and working with</b><b>businesses on integrating.</b><b>Well, Chris is the king of</b><b>product development guys.</b><b>Like, you would not have the OzDFI</b><b>Association not centralized</b><b>as it was and just other things</b><b>without this man's input.</b><b>And obviously other companies that you</b><b>would have heard of.</b><b>I hope so.</b><b>Yeah, yeah.</b><b>So yeah, it's been good.</b><b>Just like filling up my time which is</b><b>made up doing a lot of things I love.</b><b>Obviously more difficult but you know,</b><b>focusing on family and</b><b>stuff at the same time.</b><b>Just go back from the Gold Coast</b><b>adventure over there.</b><b>Why is it Brisbane Vegas</b><b>but Gold Coast is more Vegas?</b><b>Or is it more Miami?</b><b>Oh no, definitely it's</b><b>very Vegas-y when you...</b><b>Yeah. There's rides everywhere, rides all over</b><b>the place, idiots</b><b>falling over themselves on the</b><b>road getting complained to police.</b><b>Yeah. You know, it's...</b><b>And what else did your family do?</b><b>That was just me.</b><b>I was going to say that was just you.</b><b>That was my man, that was just me.</b><b>That was...</b><b>We were...</b><b>Yeah, they were back in the hotel.</b><b>They're probably normal compared to you.</b><b>It's my daughter just</b><b>like, "Where is daddy?"</b><b>No.</b><b>Fair enough.</b><b>How about yourself man?</b><b>You've had even more of an</b><b>adventure than I could even...</b><b>It's been an adventure because it feels</b><b>like it was longer than</b><b>two weeks that I was gone.</b><b>But it wasn't really, it was just like</b><b>the two weeks and we</b><b>were in Vancouver to start</b><b>off with, meeting the</b><b>rest of the psych team.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Shout outs to Mark,</b><b>Ivan, Tim, Ben over there.</b><b>But yeah, we were over</b><b>there, we had to meet the team.</b><b>We've met Mark because</b><b>he's an expat Aussie.</b><b>And Aussie with more</b><b>of a Canadian twang now.</b><b>Mark will appreciate that.</b><b>The influence.</b><b>Hard Rs.</b><b>Arrr.</b><b>You know, it's not like...</b><b>So he's a pirate, like Canadian.</b><b>No, yeah, yeah, yeah.</b><b>He's a pirate.</b><b>International waters, I always think.</b><b>No, we're meeting a team and it's really</b><b>important in hybrid</b><b>kind of working models.</b><b>You might have superstars all across the</b><b>board, but until you come</b><b>together, you don't really</b><b>get to know the other</b><b>people and stuff there.</b><b>So it was really interesting to do that,</b><b>to do a lot of the</b><b>brainstorming, pushing us</b><b>into areas of focus.</b><b>And we've hit on that now around how we</b><b>tackle workflows and</b><b>something we're calling the</b><b>layer two of generative AI.</b><b>But, you know, meeting the team was</b><b>really important, seeing</b><b>where they live, how they</b><b>do things, what it was like over there.</b><b>And more importantly,</b><b>seeing clients and investors.</b><b>And so on the client side, it was just...</b><b>And sorry, we were in New York as well.</b><b>On the client side, it's just, sorry,</b><b>Australia, we are not...</b><b>And it's for a good reason, right?</b><b>We do not take much risk.</b><b>And because we don't take much risk and</b><b>we don't have this</b><b>culture of like the interest</b><b>in that.</b><b>Like it is...</b><b>Corporate entities in</b><b>particular are very risk averse.</b><b>Which is crazy because we</b><b>end up getting left behind.</b><b>We're protected when bad things happen.</b><b>But for the 20...</b><b>Like we...</b><b>Here's the thing, we're the lucky</b><b>country, 30 years of no</b><b>recession and stuff like that.</b><b>If you've got 30 years of no recession,</b><b>but you're not taking</b><b>much upside risk, you're</b><b>doing yourself a disservice.</b><b>It's like keeping your money in savings</b><b>only and not actually</b><b>investing it while everything</b><b>else inflates and you're</b><b>actually going backwards.</b><b>That's what it feels</b><b>like with innovation here.</b><b>You just have to look at manufacturing,</b><b>mining, government decisions.</b><b>All of that stuff is very behind times.</b><b>We are very good at</b><b>digging stuff out of the ground.</b><b>And I can't remember</b><b>who put this paper out.</b><b>I think it might have been referred to by</b><b>some folks on LinkedIn.</b><b>I'll do the shout out some other time.</b><b>But interesting point was that we're so</b><b>good at digging stuff out of the ground.</b><b>One of the most important things when it</b><b>comes to AI right now is</b><b>the stuff that comes out</b><b>of the ground when it comes to the</b><b>minerals and precious</b><b>metals that are needed to go</b><b>into these chips.</b><b>It's like, "Duh, no brainer here guys.</b><b>What are we doing?"</b><b>So it's interesting.</b><b>But on that point, we</b><b>don't take much risk here.</b><b>They do.</b><b>We protect our downside so we don't get</b><b>hit by bad things when bad things happen.</b><b>We're protected.</b><b>But we just miss out on the years and</b><b>years of glory that we</b><b>could because we don't encourage</b><b>businesses.</b><b>And we don't do much in</b><b>terms of the investment.</b><b>The government will always argue that,</b><b>"Yeah, we're doing all</b><b>this investment and stuff."</b><b>It's like, "Yeah, but</b><b>others do way more."</b><b>And it's not just the government.</b><b>There's a whole ecosystem out there.</b><b>Places like Stone and Chalk and other</b><b>startup hubs are</b><b>definitely trying, but it's still</b><b>not enough.</b><b>Because when you go that...</b><b>Take, for example, we did a</b><b>last minute trip to New York.</b><b>We weren't even looking at it.</b><b>We were just there and we'll see which</b><b>cities we go to, open</b><b>ended ticket kind of thing.</b><b>San Fran got shut down for us because it</b><b>didn't get the kind of</b><b>meetings that we wanted to</b><b>do there.</b><b>We'll go back another time.</b><b>We've got our North</b><b>American partners up there anyway.</b><b>But when you do a last minute trip in</b><b>Australia, if you're</b><b>telling someone two days before,</b><b>"Hey, I'll be in Sydney," and it's like,</b><b>chances are, fat chance</b><b>you're actually going to get</b><b>someone to say yes to anything.</b><b>Over there, so many people</b><b>would be like, "Yeah, let's go.</b><b>Let's meet."</b><b>Even on the weekend, I met</b><b>with people to talk business.</b><b>This is the thing.</b><b>It's just so much</b><b>hustle and growth over there.</b><b>I find it's even...</b><b>There's big things particularly in Sydney</b><b>and this is stepping</b><b>away from obviously the</b><b>big investment corporate thing.</b><b>But more around even</b><b>just the people in general.</b><b>No one commits in Sydney.</b><b>I remember working for companies back in</b><b>the day and you'd have</b><b>these special big events</b><b>that whether it's in client invites or</b><b>just general invites,</b><b>doing meetups, webinars,</b><b>all that type of stuff.</b><b>People will say yes to coming and then</b><b>maybe 40, 50% of people</b><b>will show up in Sydney.</b><b>Because every time I ran the same thing</b><b>in Melbourne or</b><b>Brisbane, 80% of people will</b><b>show up.</b><b>There was always in Sydney, there's this</b><b>non-committal mentality</b><b>in corporates and entities.</b><b>Maybe it's because you have a reputation</b><b>and stuff in Sydney.</b><b>People know about you and</b><b>stuff and just like, "Nah."</b><b>No, I'm just joking.</b><b>But you're right with</b><b>free events and stuff.</b><b>It is...</b><b>There weren't many events.</b><b>It's like a 50%...</b><b>We'll say it's your events.</b><b>50% kind of turnout rate when events are</b><b>free and we see that</b><b>with like OzD file, like 50,</b><b>60%.</b><b>You make people pay a little bit and</b><b>stuff like say five bucks</b><b>and then go into an event</b><b>where we help run downstairs</b><b>and you had 90% turnout rate.</b><b>It's interesting like the</b><b>committal that you have here.</b><b>And speaking of which, I mean, we're</b><b>starting off like kind of...</b><b>We're starting off on the negative side</b><b>and I guess it kind of</b><b>makes sense because we'll</b><b>lead off with a positive.</b><b>We'll finish off there.</b><b>But we are in black</b><b>because it is Black Friday.</b><b>It's Friday the 13th and</b><b>I think it's important.</b><b>I'm actually dead.</b><b>This is...</b><b>Exactly.</b><b>This is...</b><b>My pasty skin is a representation of...</b><b>What is the Day of the Dead?</b><b>Dios de la Muerta or</b><b>something in Spanish?</b><b>Yeah, Day of the Dead.</b><b>That's what today is folks.</b><b>And luckily there is going to be a</b><b>resurrection because...</b><b>Well, put it this way, you need people to</b><b>go overseas, come back.</b><b>We need people from</b><b>overseas to come here.</b><b>Australia is a great place to actually</b><b>invest in because others aren't doing it.</b><b>That's the silver lining there.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>They're all moving overseas.</b><b>They moved to the States.</b><b>They moved to Europe because that's where</b><b>the opportunities are.</b><b>People will take their businesses...</b><b>They'll take their businesses over there</b><b>and we'll get more</b><b>businesses out of there just</b><b>by sheer numbers.</b><b>We only got less than</b><b>30 million people here.</b><b>So sheer numbers, we</b><b>have to go over there.</b><b>But the FOMO will happen when people see</b><b>that, "Oh, so-and-so</b><b>businesses over there, how</b><b>do we do that kind of stuff here?"</b><b>There will be FOMO and this is just the</b><b>formula unfortunately.</b><b>But at the same time, we live here.</b><b>We're still going to be</b><b>doing a lot of stuff here.</b><b>We can take a lot of ideas of what's good</b><b>happening over there.</b><b>Bring it to places here, but we need to</b><b>have that constant</b><b>connection because you get energy</b><b>from that hustle that's over there.</b><b>Hustle and bustle.</b><b>That was good and it meant that I did not</b><b>sleep on the way back</b><b>because the brain was</b><b>just firing on all cylinders and stuff.</b><b>So 24 hours to get back.</b><b>The first day I got back, it</b><b>was like 6am in the morning.</b><b>I'm like, "I'm just going to sleep for</b><b>the rest of the day."</b><b>Then I slept till afternoon, was up for a</b><b>little bit, still tired and then just got</b><b>back into normal routine.</b><b>The jet lag wasn't too bad.</b><b>Nice.</b><b>But yeah, I walked back into just so much</b><b>stuff going on here in local and whatnot.</b><b>We've got a lot to cover in the news.</b><b>Oh my goodness.</b><b>I mean, we've been away for four weeks.</b><b>There is a lot that</b><b>has happened in the news.</b><b>In relation to AI, crypto, all the works.</b><b>It is, shit's happened.</b><b>Some bad things, some good things, some</b><b>interesting, some exciting things.</b><b>And we move forward.</b><b>What do you want to raise first?</b><b>Because I've got a few.</b><b>I'm going to raise something that I</b><b>thought was hilarious</b><b>that I just bumped into when</b><b>I was on scanning my way through.</b><b>Scamming as well.</b><b>I mean scanning.</b><b>My way through the old TikTokaroos.</b><b>It was, I need to find it now.</b><b>Was it eat the dogs, eat the cats?</b><b>Eat the dogs, eat the cats.</b><b>Eat the good old Donald</b><b>Trump and his recent events.</b><b>They're eating the dogs,</b><b>they're eating the cats.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>I love this.</b><b>That's AI used at its finest.</b><b>Love it.</b><b>I think let's start off</b><b>with kicking off around.</b><b>Talks about Amazon.</b><b>Like.</b><b>Oh yeah.</b><b>Amazon is, you know.</b><b>Doing a lot in the AI space.</b><b>We all have a love-hate</b><b>relationship with them.</b><b>Big corporate ticket over the world.</b><b>I love it if they sponsor.</b><b>Eating, hurting the underdog.</b><b>Love it when they sponsor.</b><b>We all obviously use their products and</b><b>purchase their stuff</b><b>despite, that's the love-hate</b><b>relationship we have with them.</b><b>Exactly.</b><b>We've got Amazon Prime.</b><b>Yep.</b><b>I love the delivery stuff.</b><b>I love the shows they've got.</b><b>They've got arguably better quality stuff</b><b>than some of the</b><b>other free-to-air, oh it's</b><b>free-to-air, pay TV things that I get.</b><b>That's so true.</b><b>But they have a huge investment in AI.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>And they're doing a lot of work in it.</b><b>And particularly with Claude or Anthropic</b><b>being one of their biggest investments.</b><b>And they're looking to roll that out into</b><b>all of their Alexa products.</b><b>Oh really?</b><b>Which is quite interesting.</b><b>Oh interesting.</b><b>I'll just read about that.</b><b>Yeah, I definitely should.</b><b>There's a lot of great merit to it.</b><b>It gives more interesting results in some</b><b>areas than just like chat GBT.</b><b>Although I still find chat GBT is better</b><b>at it when it comes to other things.</b><b>And Claude hits limits sooner</b><b>than you have with chat GBT.</b><b>At the moment, and maybe that changes,</b><b>but because he hit</b><b>those error limits sooner,</b><b>it's like early days of chat GBT where</b><b>you couldn't just have</b><b>a long discussion with</b><b>it where you needed to</b><b>do discussion type stuff.</b><b>That's right.</b><b>Because Amazon is obviously investing a</b><b>lot in cloud based</b><b>support for AI tools as well.</b><b>Cloud or Claude?</b><b>Cloud.</b><b>Cloud.</b><b>Cloud systems.</b><b>Cloud and they invested in cloud.</b><b>Claude is obviously a big player now, but</b><b>they're with their cloud tech.</b><b>And so this is an</b><b>interesting move for them.</b><b>And given that they have got such a big</b><b>investment in Anthropic,</b><b>it makes a lot of sense.</b><b>But the reason I wanted to start with</b><b>that is actually ease my</b><b>way into Core and Anthropic.</b><b>Because they are rolling out quite a few,</b><b>they've rolled out</b><b>quite a few updates over</b><b>the last four or so weeks in relation to</b><b>enterprise level services</b><b>and support for people doing</b><b>a lot of development and applications.</b><b>Everything from the sort of the cloud for</b><b>enterprise just rolled</b><b>out with over 500,000</b><b>context windows and context windows for</b><b>anyone who doesn't know is</b><b>it's like the textual range</b><b>around the target tokens that a large LLM</b><b>might be using to</b><b>process the time it takes</b><b>to process that</b><b>information and generate responses.</b><b>So they're rolling that out for</b><b>enterprise now, which is</b><b>part of the one of the most</b><b>interesting parts of that though is their</b><b>ability to plug that</b><b>into GitHub directly.</b><b>So let's say you have your website</b><b>applications platforms all properly set</b><b>up and hosted within</b><b>GitHub.</b><b>You can now add Claude as a</b><b>layer in that and utilize it.</b><b>Yeah, please scroll through.</b><b>And utilize it within your own systems to</b><b>generate improve</b><b>optimize code within your</b><b>own platforms.</b><b>Along with a lot of other myriad of stuff</b><b>you can do with the enterprise tools that</b><b>it has available.</b><b>But this I thought was most interesting</b><b>because it has a lot of</b><b>I mean, Claude itself was</b><b>already really good at code generation.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>You know, kicking things off in</b><b>application formats, websites, etc.</b><b>And now adding that layer into GitHub,</b><b>even though GitHub does</b><b>already have some AR plugins,</b><b>I thought was was really,</b><b>really, it was really cool.</b><b>I'll show you another one just on that</b><b>note of, you know, doing</b><b>stuff here, where I don't</b><b>know if you've heard of a cell before,</b><b>but they do like AI</b><b>driven, oh, they do websites,</b><b>right?</b><b>And you can start off with</b><b>like some of their templates.</b><b>And you can do things like use one of the</b><b>templates to create a</b><b>chat bot and stuff like</b><b>that.</b><b>You can do a whole lot of other like</b><b>hosting things with them.</b><b>And interestingly, they created this</b><b>thing where basically, it's AI driven.</b><b>And what they can do is have a way for</b><b>you to describe what's the</b><b>layout for like a website</b><b>or what's the layout for for something</b><b>that you want to create.</b><b>Now I'm just taking a</b><b>screenshot here on another screen.</b><b>So don't mind me, but I'm taking a</b><b>screenshot of something</b><b>that, you know, you still look</b><b>look at in my finance days.</b><b>And I'll go here, make a similar.</b><b>It's very, it's very</b><b>fast here on my computer.</b><b>This is why I need an update, Chris, to</b><b>this and that I just paste it in.</b><b>Right?</b><b>So you'll see what it is.</b><b>It's basically Google finance.</b><b>And what's interesting here with Vercel's</b><b>dev chat thing is</b><b>that it's like anthropic</b><b>cloud, it'll start to build it on the</b><b>side, as you can see</b><b>coming up here, and then it'll</b><b>get it'll open up a preview.</b><b>So if we go, okay,</b><b>preview mode, here we go.</b><b>Oh, something went wrong.</b><b>It'll, it'll edit it.</b><b>It'll fix it.</b><b>But take a look at this.</b><b>It's building the website, very similar</b><b>to Google finance in real time.</b><b>Oh, something went wrong.</b><b>It'll come back again.</b><b>So look, it'll just fix these things.</b><b>But this is literally off a screenshot.</b><b>You can then get the code, take that and</b><b>actually do something else with it.</b><b>So it's super clever</b><b>how you do things now.</b><b>And it gets to that point where a lot of</b><b>businesses that we talk to</b><b>in, you know, our day to day</b><b>of psych and stuff, they're talking about</b><b>how do they take back</b><b>control of things that</b><b>they've had to just</b><b>outsource for the longest time.</b><b>They've had to outsource that</b><b>they've had to get others in.</b><b>A lot of that you still need to outsource</b><b>it because you still</b><b>need others to be the</b><b>experts there.</b><b>But many things you can bring in house</b><b>and what happens to</b><b>those like consultants and</b><b>the ones that are doing on the outside,</b><b>it's kind of like,</b><b>well, they'll be there, say,</b><b>for the validation because you need their</b><b>stamp of approval that</b><b>you've done the right</b><b>kind of process, but the relationship of</b><b>engagement changes and the</b><b>consultants, and we still</b><b>do some consulting, we have to change how</b><b>we engage in this kind of future.</b><b>We have to be the ones bringing this to</b><b>them before the company</b><b>is doing if the companies</b><b>are you need to be the one</b><b>helping them out with this.</b><b>It's new tool.</b><b>It's just democratized in</b><b>terms of who accesses it.</b><b>But it stems from what you're saying</b><b>there with Claude and</b><b>the usefulness there.</b><b>This was something that was fascinating</b><b>was coming across my desk</b><b>and expanding on Claude.</b><b>What they're also doing is releasing a</b><b>whole bunch of quick star</b><b>repos now within GitHub.</b><b>So you can actually go to the GitHub,</b><b>Anthropics quick start up,</b><b>got a link in the thing, pop</b><b>it up.</b><b>And you can actually they've got a</b><b>collection of projects</b><b>designed to help developers quickly</b><b>get started with building and deployable</b><b>applications using anthropic APIs.</b><b>So just really supporting the startups</b><b>and people with</b><b>interesting ideas getting out</b><b>out there as well.</b><b>Where is that?</b><b>Okay, yeah, I found it.</b><b>I found it.</b><b>Nice one.</b><b>Let's take a look at that.</b><b>I'll just throw it up quickly.</b><b>Yeah, throw it up.</b><b>Throw it up there, please.</b><b>Throw it up there, Jamie.</b><b>I'm still not as good as this.</b><b>And look, guys, it will be faster on a</b><b>better machine if</b><b>anyone's got recommendations as</b><b>to what laptop I should get.</b><b>I'm currently running</b><b>a 2021 HP Spectre x360.</b><b>I bought it because it looked nice.</b><b>I do want something with 32 gig.</b><b>16 gig of RAM is great.</b><b>I do want to avoid the Snapdragon chip,</b><b>because what I've been</b><b>told is that it just doesn't</b><b>spends what you're doing.</b><b>I mean, there's the Snapdragon chip.</b><b>They don't have any dedicated GPUs at</b><b>this particular point.</b><b>So if you're doing a lot of AI work or</b><b>you've been gaming, it just</b><b>doesn't have the performance.</b><b>If you're just doing</b><b>general work, amazing.</b><b>No, but the other thing is</b><b>like video editing as well.</b><b>Yeah, exactly.</b><b>It's going to be a massive</b><b>problem for that kind of stuff.</b><b>Right.</b><b>So just going AMD or Intel</b><b>and stuff for the time being.</b><b>Anyway, so I found the thing</b><b>I wanted to also talk about.</b><b>Have you heard of dead bots?</b><b>Dead bots, I think it's called?</b><b>No.</b><b>What is that?</b><b>There's a company out of, and it's a</b><b>shout out to one of my</b><b>favorite Tiktokers out here,</b><b>Dylan Page with News Daddy, my man, was</b><b>just scrolling through</b><b>some items from today.</b><b>And he mentioned, well, he brought up</b><b>something which is really interesting.</b><b>It's this company out in</b><b>China, which is creating an AI.</b><b>Anyone's heard of character AI?</b><b>You can create those</b><b>bots with characters.</b><b>Yep.</b><b>Imagine you can do</b><b>that for a lost loved one.</b><b>Oh yeah.</b><b>I've heard of stuff like this before.</b><b>Bringing your dead ones back to life.</b><b>That's right.</b><b>Something I see the newer generation</b><b>going in for, but the</b><b>older generation being like</b><b>even just seeing faces move on old photos</b><b>like you could do with some basic AI.</b><b>No.</b><b>So essentially what you can do is you can</b><b>send in a history of</b><b>videos, images of your</b><b>loved ones deceased and they will</b><b>generate a bot from this</b><b>particular AI, essentially</b><b>an AI from this information.</b><b>Oh wow.</b><b>You can put it against your tombstones or</b><b>on the graves or you can just keep it for</b><b>yourself as a photo</b><b>or something like that.</b><b>And it essentially communicates to you as</b><b>if it was that lost one.</b><b>And there was an example that was used</b><b>where this person who had</b><b>done it was engaging with</b><b>the AI tool and the AI tool was like, oh,</b><b>I don't feel any pain.</b><b>Trying to demonstrate this AI level</b><b>emotion to the experiences</b><b>that it was having at the</b><b>current time.</b><b>And I just was like in my head, it's not</b><b>a place I had gone to</b><b>yet with all the different</b><b>things you could do with AI.</b><b>Someone has.</b><b>Bringing my lost loved ones to life.</b><b>I mean, I can imagine some really good</b><b>places for it to be</b><b>applicable like depression.</b><b>Maybe at the funeral.</b><b>People who need more closure.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>I can imagine that</b><b>would work really nicely.</b><b>But I think that it maybe works after a</b><b>period of grievance for</b><b>certain things like maybe</b><b>historical figures that</b><b>agree to this kind of stuff.</b><b>There were already like talks about this</b><b>and other companies doing it.</b><b>I guess this is like one of them.</b><b>I wonder where they are.</b><b>But it was like places trying to tie</b><b>things into funeral homes</b><b>at the early onset of chat</b><b>GPT.</b><b>So obviously they</b><b>would have gotten better.</b><b>This is interesting too.</b><b>But man, dead bots.</b><b>I actually thought dead</b><b>bots meant something else.</b><b>But D.S. Del Amorte, it is the perfect</b><b>day to be talking</b><b>about that kind of stuff.</b><b>That's right.</b><b>That is that is freaking crazy.</b><b>That's why I wanted to bring it up.</b><b>This is Friday 13th</b><b>live in live and talking.</b><b>We should have had a</b><b>different version of the cover.</b><b>Don't worry folks.</b><b>We'll get a different AI version of these</b><b>guys because we can</b><b>throw this into like chat</b><b>GPT and go reimagine this.</b><b>But with you know,</b><b>yeah, with dead people.</b><b>We'll be skeletons.</b><b>But before we go on to some other stuff I</b><b>want to raise maybe it's at the end.</b><b>But I think it's important now because</b><b>you know people have</b><b>short attention spans.</b><b>This will be something that maybe we even</b><b>cut up into something.</b><b>I know we're going to do we've got an</b><b>automated way that the shorts get cut.</b><b>So so you know</b><b>definitely interesting there.</b><b>But Australia is looking to follow the EU</b><b>as well as California</b><b>in terms of regulating</b><b>AI.</b><b>And so they've got something called the</b><b>AI guardrails, which</b><b>I'll just bring up now as</b><b>you can see here.</b><b>So these are 10 commandments taken down</b><b>from the mountains next</b><b>to a fiery bush I believe.</b><b>Do you hear something folks?</b><b>And the first commandment is establish</b><b>implement and publish an</b><b>accountability process including</b><b>governance, blah, blah, blah, just have</b><b>governance right how you're</b><b>going to use AI in business.</b><b>Now this this is a mix of mandatory plus</b><b>proposed like standards</b><b>or ways that businesses</b><b>and you would think that higher level</b><b>more high risk</b><b>businesses it would be mandatory</b><b>that they have to do this.</b><b>And you think that the smaller ones, you</b><b>know, associations, etc.</b><b>Maybe it's more like guidelines.</b><b>The point is one big point is this too</b><b>early for us to actually</b><b>have legislation around</b><b>this kind of stuff because yes, while we</b><b>hear a lot about the</b><b>negative, there is so</b><b>much good stuff happening when it comes</b><b>to AI and we're still</b><b>just scratching the surface.</b><b>This is almost like can you imagine if</b><b>well, it'd be very hard</b><b>to imagine because this</b><b>is not what happened, but they tried to</b><b>regulate the internet,</b><b>they weren't successful.</b><b>And when I say they I mean</b><b>the powers of governments, etc.</b><b>And because of that, we were able to have</b><b>this really open</b><b>internet like we have today.</b><b>And it was more built around standards.</b><b>Then each country got to apply those</b><b>standards and there's</b><b>laws at those country levels.</b><b>Sure, we've got laws around the internet,</b><b>but they weren't there</b><b>early and we were able to</b><b>develop and yeah, there were bad things,</b><b>but we also had so much</b><b>good that came out of it.</b><b>If we regulate too early, one thought is</b><b>that we are going to</b><b>stifle innovation anyway.</b><b>And that's the biggest complaint about</b><b>the EU's AI Act because</b><b>it tries to regulate the</b><b>technology.</b><b>It has rules in there like if your model</b><b>is over a certain size,</b><b>that's like saying back in</b><b>the 80s and having it</b><b>as a rule to this day.</b><b>Well, if your hard disk, your floppy disk</b><b>is over four megabytes</b><b>and it's like that was</b><b>big back then, but now that's like, what</b><b>are you talking about?</b><b>Songs aren't like 20 seconds of a song</b><b>isn't even four megabyte.</b><b>You know, like they're really hard on the</b><b>tech, but four megabytes was quite large.</b><b>Huge.</b><b>That was a computer that was like, we</b><b>said men to Mars floppy</b><b>disks were like in the kilobytes.</b><b>Exactly.</b><b>Do you floppy disk or do</b><b>you mean the save icon guys?</b><b>Right.</b><b>Because it's turned into that.</b><b>It's gone from like when you ask people</b><b>that are younger, like</b><b>how do you hold a phone?</b><b>They do this.</b><b>They do the fingers like that.</b><b>And then like younger people, they go,</b><b>how do you hold a phone?</b><b>They do like that flat hand.</b><b>Do you notice they don't, you really use</b><b>the save icon anymore?</b><b>No.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>That icon is pretty much</b><b>being removed from a lot of.</b><b>Why would you save stuff?</b><b>Why isn't it just auto saving?</b><b>Why are you using Google Docs?</b><b>But more the people</b><b>don't know what the icon is.</b><b>Exactly.</b><b>So that they're getting rid of it.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>The floppy disk icon.</b><b>It's gone.</b><b>So anyway, the point around that the</b><b>guardrails is, it's interesting that</b><b>they're putting it out</b><b>now.</b><b>There is a consultation and various</b><b>groups of individuals are</b><b>responding as well as actual</b><b>communities themselves.</b><b>So for example, the build club is I'm</b><b>putting it to Michael and</b><b>the guys at DSAI to put out</b><b>a response.</b><b>And we know there's going to be various</b><b>industry bodies,</b><b>lawyers, et cetera, et cetera,</b><b>consultancies and whatnot.</b><b>So it'd be interesting to see what people</b><b>have to say about it.</b><b>I feel that we do need to have some</b><b>guardrails, but they need to be a bit</b><b>more looser and maybe</b><b>even like a moratorium.</b><b>It will still be years before if they go</b><b>through the process and</b><b>it's even fast tracked, it</b><b>will still be two or three years.</b><b>Why do you think they need to be looser?</b><b>What's so strict about them right now?</b><b>I'm thinking about what's happening.</b><b>The biggest strict, the biggest</b><b>strictness is if they do it</b><b>and depends on the application.</b><b>This is the first draft.</b><b>They'll always like fine tune it after</b><b>like they get feedback from people.</b><b>But I think the thing that they need to</b><b>think about is biggest thing.</b><b>It should be guardrails and regulations</b><b>around the applications,</b><b>not the technology itself.</b><b>And they need to be careful around</b><b>pushing onus on developers of the tools,</b><b>unless the tools are</b><b>actually purposely doing deepfake porn</b><b>and stuff like that.</b><b>You know, things we should guard against.</b><b>If it's just a general tool and depends</b><b>on how someone uses it, right?</b><b>So it's like regulating math just because</b><b>hackers use math in the</b><b>Python code that they write or</b><b>regulating Python, the app, because</b><b>hackers use it to create</b><b>viruses and stuff like that.</b><b>We don't regulate the app.</b><b>So we don't regulate the actual tool.</b><b>We regulate the outcome,</b><b>which is the applications.</b><b>That's what should be regulated.</b><b>I think math is the</b><b>wrong thing to regulate.</b><b>You'd be regulating Python because that's</b><b>the thing that creates code.</b><b>But it's almost the same kind</b><b>of argument and stuff, right?</b><b>Like by arguing that, hey, we should</b><b>regulate the AI models</b><b>and stuff and what they do.</b><b>But that's almost like</b><b>that's just the math.</b><b>It's how it's applied.</b><b>It's how you use it, folks.</b><b>Like it's not the side, blah, blah, blah.</b><b>But you need to--</b><b>Sure.</b><b>I mean, the same argument goes against</b><b>the social media platforms.</b><b>They create these platforms for people to</b><b>access and then fake news,</b><b>terrible content, sharing of really dark,</b><b>awful stuff that is</b><b>mostly only relevant for</b><b>Friday 13th material.</b><b>Yep.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>It's end up putting out there.</b><b>But it's the same thing</b><b>from an AI perspective, right?</b><b>You have these tools that have the</b><b>capabilities to do</b><b>some really dark stuff.</b><b>So they should be regulations around how</b><b>you monitor and protect people from that.</b><b>And bad use of it, but don't</b><b>stop it from going to market.</b><b>So the thing that I'm also saying is that</b><b>it's not necessarily like a free for all</b><b>that we just should have no regulation.</b><b>It's somewhere in the middle.</b><b>And part of that middle, when you look at</b><b>the other AI guardrails,</b><b>so one thing that they talk about here</b><b>and need for humans in the loop.</b><b>So they talk about human control and</b><b>intervention in number five.</b><b>And then at the same time, they talk</b><b>about the need to keep records of this.</b><b>Why these guardrails have really been</b><b>interesting is because</b><b>since late last year,</b><b>when we developed Psyche and we developed</b><b>it with our mindset</b><b>of blockchain involved,</b><b>we saw that the we guessed that the</b><b>future would be that we</b><b>will need at some point</b><b>to prove that humans are in the loop and</b><b>not just for business,</b><b>workflow purposes, but for insurance, for</b><b>compliance, for audit.</b><b>And this is what's actually going to</b><b>probably happen for high-risk businesses.</b><b>You're going to need to prove for</b><b>insurance compliance or audit</b><b>that humans are in the loop.</b><b>The problem that I have with this though,</b><b>and where I think it</b><b>could be improved is that</b><b>they're putting the onus on businesses to</b><b>keep records of all this kind of stuff.</b><b>Businesses keep records and I have to</b><b>prove to you as an auditor</b><b>by sending you my</b><b>data to show compliance.</b><b>A, how do you know it</b><b>in tamper with that?</b><b>Because it's just log</b><b>files out of my system.</b><b>B, how do you know that</b><b>if I'm moving files across,</b><b>that's a cybersecurity risk</b><b>depending on what's being sent.</b><b>So what I'm saying here is that there are</b><b>ways to prove humans in the loop like</b><b>we've got with Psyche.</b><b>I was going to say, no,</b><b>no, no, I was going to say,</b><b>like, isn't there a</b><b>company under that's doing this?</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>I'm pretty sure.</b><b>We'll talk about them.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Oh, right.</b><b>Cool.</b><b>Yeah, we'll talk about it.</b><b>No, you're right.</b><b>Sorry.</b><b>Sorry.</b><b>I thought you were going to</b><b>go and find another tension.</b><b>I'm like, no, let me get</b><b>my argument out, folks.</b><b>No, Jonathan.</b><b>No, I absolutely agree with you.</b><b>There are better ways to do this.</b><b>And one way is that if</b><b>you record things onto,</b><b>whether it's a private</b><b>blockchain or a public blockchain,</b><b>that's a way that's tamper proof.</b><b>Those log files and recordings of the</b><b>process that's being used,</b><b>not all of the AI itself, because that's</b><b>too much for a blockchain,</b><b>but just recordings of the</b><b>logs so it can be tamper proof.</b><b>And then secondly, when it's on this</b><b>immutable kind of blockchain,</b><b>you want to have selective disclosure,</b><b>which is where zero</b><b>knowledge proofs come in.</b><b>And by doing something like that,</b><b>I can prove to Chris the order to a</b><b>regulator that I have complied</b><b>based on the questions that he's asked,</b><b>but Chris never needs to see the data.</b><b>You better watch out.</b><b>I'm coming for it.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Oh, exactly.</b><b>This is lucky that there's this desk in</b><b>the middle thing here.</b><b>So anyway, the</b><b>guardrails are interesting.</b><b>People might be interested in giving us</b><b>their feedback responses</b><b>and we can put that</b><b>into the appropriate areas</b><b>or they're doing a response themselves,</b><b>in which case I'd encourage them to have</b><b>a lot of discussions about it.</b><b>But this is interesting.</b><b>It's still going to be years before the</b><b>government comes out</b><b>with this kind of stuff just because of</b><b>how bills are brought into Senate.</b><b>I was going to say,</b><b>that sounds too quick.</b><b>Oh, yeah.</b><b>We talked about this at</b><b>the start, their ability.</b><b>2030, folks.</b><b>No, no, no.</b><b>But if something's</b><b>important like AI FP is to be,</b><b>and it's such a hot topic, they are</b><b>moving faster with this,</b><b>I feel than when they</b><b>did with blockchain.</b><b>I was going to say to the contrary,</b><b>blockchain is a perfect</b><b>example where speed has proven</b><b>that they just can't move fast.</b><b>Exactly.</b><b>So, yeah.</b><b>It won't be.</b><b>I mean, it's good that</b><b>they've written some stuff up and,</b><b>I think their ability to</b><b>put it in in a meaningful way</b><b>is going to be very, very slow.</b><b>Super optimistic and or</b><b>super fast and just unrealistic</b><b>would be that they would get this out</b><b>within like a couple of years,</b><b>three years because like a</b><b>year for the consultation,</b><b>then they've got to write it in.</b><b>Then there's like another year.</b><b>Three years is internal.</b><b>And it's exactly, but</b><b>exactly this is the thing.</b><b>So another thing, they</b><b>should have standards,</b><b>maybe guardrails or guidelines, but like,</b><b>rules is going to be hard.</b><b>But the other part is that even if it's</b><b>two years to actually get it out</b><b>and it's in law, it's not like everyone</b><b>just gets hit straight away.</b><b>Typically, there's months or</b><b>maybe even a year for businesses</b><b>to start complying</b><b>that weren't complying.</b><b>There's a moratorium.</b><b>So these things need to</b><b>be taken into account.</b><b>What it means is just continue developing</b><b>all that type of stuff.</b><b>Grandfather.</b><b>Yeah, you have to</b><b>accommodate for all that.</b><b>But like people just need to develop, but</b><b>also respond to this.</b><b>Because if we don't</b><b>influence the response,</b><b>it'll be people that have no idea of the</b><b>technology, all right,</b><b>or the nuance that will do things here.</b><b>And yeah, do we think that's going to</b><b>hinder innovation in the space?</b><b>Yes.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>And in a positive or negative way?</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>Depending on how restrictive</b><b>it is, I see the EU AI act,</b><b>if something like that was here, it would</b><b>be very restrictive.</b><b>Well, here's the thing.</b><b>Like, it's restrictive on those that are</b><b>actually creating the base models.</b><b>We don't really have folks</b><b>doing that sort of thing here.</b><b>And I know folks will try to develop that</b><b>sort of thing, but it is hard.</b><b>And so I think it'll affect certain</b><b>people more than others.</b><b>Hopefully, what they do here for</b><b>Australia is conducive</b><b>to what we have here.</b><b>And we've got a culture, we've got a</b><b>society of builders and developers</b><b>and businesses that are risk averse.</b><b>We've got very smart developers.</b><b>Some of the best things to come out and</b><b>being used by the world</b><b>have come out of Australia, like Canva,</b><b>for example, or the Atlassian stuff.</b><b>And in the AI space,</b><b>we've got great companies,</b><b>like the ones that do ratings that are</b><b>used a lot to rate different systems.</b><b>They call it artificial analysis.</b><b>Shout out to Micah and the team there.</b><b>But we've got great communities, like the</b><b>Build Club and DSAI.</b><b>We've got a lot of</b><b>these great things out here.</b><b>We need to have stuff that, given the</b><b>society that we've got,</b><b>very community driven, very smart, clever</b><b>tech that gets POC'd and tested here</b><b>and then taken overseas.</b><b>We need to foster that because that's</b><b>just the culture that we're in.</b><b>I think the government can do a lot more</b><b>to actually help out</b><b>with that sort of thing.</b><b>It could even have a</b><b>community of experts.</b><b>Unfortunately, right now, we have the</b><b>industry expert bodies and stuff</b><b>that I don't feel tie</b><b>in as well as they could.</b><b>They're starting to do some stuff like</b><b>NAIC, National AI Center,</b><b>does a lot of stuff with the community.</b><b>Could be more.</b><b>Others out there could be doing more</b><b>stuff with the community</b><b>because that's where the</b><b>real kind of stuff is happening.</b><b>In blockchain, whilst OzdeFi and Digital</b><b>Economy Council of Australia</b><b>and these other groups do their thing,</b><b>I feel like government</b><b>really taps into that.</b><b>Or they were when</b><b>blockchain was a hot thing.</b><b>Now it's by the back burner, but there's</b><b>still stuff going on</b><b>in the blockchain space.</b><b>I digress.</b><b>That's a big piece of</b><b>news that came out last week.</b><b>So it's just fresh, hot off the press.</b><b>And another big one as well</b><b>is that came out this morning.</b><b>And you probably saw this as well, was</b><b>the whole open AI now has more reasoning.</b><b>More reasoning.</b><b>More reasoning.</b><b>We talked about this a month ago, right?</b><b>Can I have some more?</b><b>Reasoning.</b><b>Good old strawberry here to take us into</b><b>the new world of reasoning.</b><b>Reasoning.</b><b>So what we've got here,</b><b>something like Moss from the IT crowd,</b><b>which is appropriate</b><b>for this show, right?</b><b>They've got a whole</b><b>lot more reasoning stuff</b><b>and strawberry is one of the things that</b><b>they highlight as well.</b><b>As well as it's completing logic puzzles.</b><b>It's doing stuff from, I'm reading from</b><b>others that have been trying it out.</b><b>It's doing puzzles</b><b>faster than other models.</b><b>This is not to be confused with like some</b><b>of the recent press that they did around.</b><b>And they did an opposed to talking about</b><b>next, GPT next, which</b><b>is not what this is.</b><b>And GPT next is also not a thing.</b><b>They were just using that term as the</b><b>next iteration of AI coming out.</b><b>So not to be confused with</b><b>that, but this is pretty exciting.</b><b>Just because of the quantum physics or</b><b>more about the next</b><b>set reasoning that is.</b><b>I thought you could talk about the</b><b>ponytail and they do.</b><b>But no, it is interesting.</b><b>So it's when you read into it,</b><b>and I don't know</b><b>exactly where it is here.</b><b>It's hard to navigate</b><b>on the screen just here.</b><b>But what I did read was that they're</b><b>using more chain of thought.</b><b>So they're giving it like system prompts</b><b>so that when you ask a question,</b><b>it takes your query, it</b><b>goes through its system prompt,</b><b>which is running it through</b><b>a chain of thought process.</b><b>Plus it's a better model.</b><b>Meaning that because you can run chain of</b><b>thought on just normal.</b><b>I was going to say this is kind of the</b><b>things I would use to do is</b><b>actually tell it to question</b><b>itself, run and can question yourself as</b><b>if you were talking to yourself.</b><b>Create four versions of</b><b>you and have a discussion.</b><b>And many people do that kind of stuff and</b><b>they talk to the different experts</b><b>sitting in the train,</b><b>you know, trying to tell which one of you</b><b>is the AI and stuff like that.</b><b>There's things like that out there, but</b><b>this is what it's</b><b>doing as its system prompt.</b><b>But it's not only doing that,</b><b>it's doing on a better model.</b><b>So it can do strawberry, it can count the</b><b>letter R's in there,</b><b>it can do other things that other models.</b><b>Here's the thing, you can do it with</b><b>other models, but doing it in here</b><b>has been proven so</b><b>far, so far to be faster.</b><b>My biggest take-</b><b>What's the caveat?</b><b>Yeah, what's the caveat?</b><b>It's a pretty big one.</b><b>The caveat is something I'll put out on</b><b>LinkedIn and I'll share it because I just</b><b>shared it this morning.</b><b>But it was the immediate thought that I</b><b>had and you come to the</b><b>thoughts like this when</b><b>you basically are deeper in the weeds</b><b>than the traditional kind</b><b>of just men on the street,</b><b>right?</b><b>And there's a lot of people like me that</b><b>are deep in the weeds</b><b>and we've got a unique way</b><b>that we look at it because for us, black</b><b>box models like this, normal chad GPT,</b><b>whether it's O1 or whatever, at the</b><b>moment, they haven't</b><b>shown this to not be true,</b><b>but they're a black box model.</b><b>And what I mean by that is that you don't</b><b>know how they're</b><b>coming up with the answer.</b><b>It is magic, it is more right</b><b>and we can evaluate and test.</b><b>But the evaluations, even if they got to,</b><b>they're at 89% for certain tests,</b><b>even if they got to 99%, it's that 1%</b><b>where it gets it wrong that is really</b><b>a potential problem.</b><b>And not only that, the guardrails that</b><b>Australia talks about, the</b><b>submission that we're going to</b><b>put in there is that for certain</b><b>specialized high-risk</b><b>things, GPs, financial advisors,</b><b>lawyers, it's not enough to just rely on</b><b>a black box model</b><b>where it just gives you the</b><b>answer even if it's 99% right.</b><b>And yet, there's a human in the loop.</b><b>What we need sometimes is a way to prove</b><b>that there are the sources,</b><b>the sources of information</b><b>you can see it in click on.</b><b>When you go to perplexity, you can see</b><b>the sources because they</b><b>run rag on website search.</b><b>This is where tools like perplexity and</b><b>psych come into play.</b><b>Exactly.</b><b>Much more of a rag model approach.</b><b>So it does hinder slightly creativity,</b><b>but it means that you have more trust</b><b>in the data that is being researched.</b><b>For example, like I don't trust GPT when</b><b>it comes to doing my</b><b>research work because</b><b>I can't trust that the information is</b><b>poorly, even if I asked it is true.</b><b>Yeah.</b><b>So you might use perplexity for that or</b><b>you've got rag running on your own</b><b>documents, whether it's psych or</b><b>something else, you're running rag</b><b>because you know that</b><b>you can see and you</b><b>can click on the sources.</b><b>And it was interesting that they're</b><b>showing a clinical use case</b><b>here because I would never,</b><b>even if the model is 99.9%</b><b>right, solely rely on this.</b><b>And I'm not saying that you have rag only</b><b>or you have this model</b><b>only because like you said,</b><b>there are tasks that you need where you</b><b>need to be more creative.</b><b>So you use the raw model.</b><b>There are tasks where</b><b>you need to be specific.</b><b>So you use the rag kind of model.</b><b>And there's going to</b><b>be even a hybrid rag.</b><b>And what I mean by that, you can have the</b><b>creativity of the answer you can get,</b><b>because what rag does rag does that first</b><b>search of what are the chunks of text?</b><b>What are the websites where I'm actually</b><b>going to find the answer?</b><b>That's a basic search.</b><b>And then it runs 01 GPT for Omni.</b><b>It runs whatever it is to get</b><b>the answers out of that text.</b><b>So the model actually in</b><b>rag, it's not one or the other.</b><b>It is a bit of a hybrid there, but I can</b><b>see ones where you</b><b>can have the creativity,</b><b>but have a rag process run on</b><b>top, just to prove that yeah,</b><b>the answer actually</b><b>came from these things.</b><b>It's interesting.</b><b>But yeah, I would not have used like a</b><b>clinical model from the first part.</b><b>Anyway, it's certainly worth watching and</b><b>people can try it out.</b><b>So I find it fascinating that they've</b><b>finally they've done one unlike Sora,</b><b>where it's like, hey, look</b><b>at this and you can't try it.</b><b>You can actually try it folks.</b><b>So worth a look.</b><b>Some fast news stuff that's going on.</b><b>I mean, we can't not talk</b><b>about Tesla and its AI bot.</b><b>Have you seen all the latest media around</b><b>the new AI bot that they'll be making?</b><b>What's it called?</b><b>Optimus.</b><b>Oh, Prime.</b><b>Yeah, they've put a tag against it.</b><b>They've had some examples where they're</b><b>showing it working in the</b><b>in the kitchen environment</b><b>and in the in your living room and</b><b>picking up your cups</b><b>and serving and cleaning.</b><b>It's these real life bots are now, you</b><b>know, they're becoming a reality.</b><b>They put a price tag on it.</b><b>It's like 10 to 20 thousand, I think,</b><b>depending on what market you're in.</b><b>Okay.</b><b>And they're predicting, I think it to be</b><b>available in the next like year or so.</b><b>Wow.</b><b>That's that's pretty interesting.</b><b>So thank you.</b><b>Good old good old Tesla.</b><b>Good old Elon coming coming to town with</b><b>our new or is Donald Trump calls in Leon.</b><b>Good old Leon.</b><b>Good old Leon.</b><b>On the topic of quick news, we've got our</b><b>Facebook getting a little bit in trouble.</b><b>What are they doing?</b><b>They've been they've admitted essentially</b><b>where it relates to all of their AI tools</b><b>scraping the images of their Facebook,</b><b>all the public photos to</b><b>support the data that they're</b><b>doing.</b><b>Okay.</b><b>And that is without anyone's consent.</b><b>And while I'm not massive in places like</b><b>the US, not not an issue</b><b>in places like the US in</b><b>the European Union, where it is obviously</b><b>really important that you're adhering to,</b><b>you know, consent and, you know,</b><b>Like all the GDP.</b><b>Yeah, the GDP are kind</b><b>of stuff exactly right.</b><b>They were straight and they are so</b><b>they're going to be in trouble for that.</b><b>So that's probably going to have some</b><b>backlash for them over the coming months.</b><b>So about that on the news.</b><b>Yeah, yeah.</b><b>I lost my mouse and video.</b><b>Hang on.</b><b>Hang on.</b><b>Let's just scroll through this.</b><b>And video.</b><b>Yep.</b><b>Yep.</b><b>Okay.</b><b>What's the video on?</b><b>Nvidia stock market.</b><b>They've been sort of the reigning champs</b><b>in the AI space in relation to the stock,</b><b>but they've taken a huge</b><b>dive over the last week or so.</b><b>Dropping 10% almost 12</b><b>and a half or 12, 12, 212.</b><b>I mean, I can't read 212 billion pounds,</b><b>which is half a billion dollars.</b><b>That's a heavy.</b><b>Raped off the top.</b><b>That's in heavy stock right there.</b><b>Largest single day loss in US history.</b><b>So when was that?</b><b>So we're looking at they took a nosedive</b><b>due to some stuff that</b><b>was released to the press</b><b>around practices that are hindering</b><b>client flexibility at switching to</b><b>alternative semiconductor</b><b>suppliers.</b><b>Monopoly based, shitty practices,</b><b>monopoly based, market ownership.</b><b>And it is, yeah, that's a big hit.</b><b>I wonder if they use GPT or other tools</b><b>to figure out what's a</b><b>good marketing model to</b><b>keep up.</b><b>No, they need a rag approach.</b><b>So this is the AI telling</b><b>us the application folks.</b><b>It's not the AI.</b><b>It's the application</b><b>that's the how you use it.</b><b>But that is not good.</b><b>I mean, it's talking to a lot of the</b><b>stuff that's happening,</b><b>in particular in Europe,</b><b>where they're putting a lot more eyes</b><b>restrictions, as you pointed</b><b>out before, across the stuff</b><b>that's happening in the AI space, not</b><b>just from a software,</b><b>but also from a hardware</b><b>perspective.</b><b>And competition needs to be available.</b><b>And you can't have businesses like</b><b>Nvidia, you know,</b><b>blocking the ability for other</b><b>companies to get out there in the market.</b><b>So it's kind of a good thing.</b><b>I'm happy that it's happening.</b><b>I want the competition to be there.</b><b>Unfortunately, what it will lead to is</b><b>just like, see, we were</b><b>right, we needed to have</b><b>these really</b><b>restrictive, AI like laws and stuff.</b><b>It'll be that kind of canary in the coal</b><b>mine that well, maybe</b><b>that's the wrong analogy.</b><b>But there's a Malcolm Gladwell analogy</b><b>that something something</b><b>along the lines of when</b><b>things have been restrictive, and you let</b><b>one of the people</b><b>from the restrictive area</b><b>through, it's an argument to just go see,</b><b>we told you like, you know, I don't know,</b><b>I'm probably confusing that analogy.</b><b>But my point is, when I get to the point</b><b>that I could see this</b><b>as being like positive</b><b>that yeah, we make Facebook like pay, not</b><b>Facebook, but who was Facebook, Facebook,</b><b>yeah, meta, meta, sorry, I'm thinking I</b><b>keep thinking that the</b><b>double names and stuff</b><b>there.</b><b>But like, we are</b><b>restricted on the big company.</b><b>And because of that, it uses an argument</b><b>to restrict the smaller companies to it's</b><b>dangerous.</b><b>And like, we still got a better chance</b><b>here, because we don't</b><b>have regulation kind of</b><b>laws here in Australia.</b><b>Maybe it turns out like I can see an</b><b>irony that we become the</b><b>ones that dig stuff out</b><b>of the ground that all the chip makers</b><b>need, and we make money</b><b>off that and have a boon</b><b>to the economy.</b><b>And then we also become the only place</b><b>that isn't as restrictive</b><b>in terms of its AI laws.</b><b>And all of a sudden, all these businesses</b><b>come here to develop this, I don't know,</b><b>corrupt machine run country and look, one</b><b>can only hope and</b><b>dream on a Black Friday.</b><b>But yeah, I don't think it's right.</b><b>Speaking of is that the</b><b>you don't have the meta one?</b><b>Oh, yeah, that's not for the meta one.</b><b>Like I've got some more</b><b>stuff like continue you go go.</b><b>Let me let me jump in there.</b><b>Yeah, because I think</b><b>this one is also important.</b><b>The screen there folks that are listening</b><b>online, I can never get a handle on like,</b><b>I'm snapping things to screen here.</b><b>And this is an article</b><b>from crikey of all places.</b><b>And why it's interesting is because I</b><b>highlighted something I wasn't aware of.</b><b>Look at that like article title AI worse</b><b>than humans in every way.</b><b>It's summarizing</b><b>information government trial finds.</b><b>I mean, tell us how you really feel</b><b>author article person that's right.</b><b>But also show me the data that supports</b><b>this because every test</b><b>and that I've ever seen</b><b>were there really otherwise there is an</b><b>article that you can download and stuff.</b><b>And I will great this is</b><b>yeah, I will find it here.</b><b>We're relying on a technology discussion</b><b>from a company that makes</b><b>you download a PDF to read</b><b>the article is that what we're well,</b><b>yeah, there is a little</b><b>bit of that and stuff.</b><b>But I'm going to open up the</b><b>article on like another side.</b><b>But the point was was that what happened</b><b>was that there was this</b><b>acid trial earlier this year.</b><b>And it was all about they</b><b>were doing stuff with Amazon.</b><b>So I kind of wanted to mention it there,</b><b>but they were doing</b><b>stuff to test how would it</b><b>answer a question versus how human would</b><b>answer that same question.</b><b>And there is a Senate paper, or it was</b><b>spoken about in Senate, the Select</b><b>Committee on Adopting</b><b>Artificial Intelligence. So we had</b><b>ministers talk about it. We had the</b><b>chairman of ASIC talk</b><b>about it being, yeah, it was pretty bland</b><b>the answers and stuff.</b><b>And overall, the messaging</b><b>was is that the report and this is with</b><b>Amazon, and they go</b><b>through the findings and stuff.</b><b>Unfortunately, they don't release the</b><b>full results, which I'm pretty miffed</b><b>about, like I would have</b><b>loved to have seen side by side. Here is</b><b>human answer one</b><b>obfuscate stuff. Don't tell us who</b><b>the people are, but at least go, this was</b><b>human answer one. This is</b><b>how the AI answered it. So we</b><b>can at least evaluate and stuff</b><b>ourselves. It's a frickin black box,</b><b>guys, you know how I feel</b><b>about black boxes. But also, this stuff</b><b>is can be trained very,</b><b>very easily. Like it can be and</b><b>you just tell it to go, can you summarize</b><b>this? Of course, it's going</b><b>to give you a shit response.</b><b>And then you go, can you summarize it</b><b>looking for these points?</b><b>Now it's hard to get better.</b><b>That's what they were doing. They were</b><b>getting better and better at the</b><b>responses. So there's a</b><b>long paper here, folks, definitely read</b><b>it or use AI to help you</b><b>read it and verify that you're</b><b>getting the right answers. But the point</b><b>is, my takeaway, they got better at</b><b>actually the answers</b><b>because they it was over a month. And</b><b>they did prompt</b><b>engineering to iterate and get better</b><b>responses. Now they should. That's just</b><b>prompt engineering, you can</b><b>get better results when you</b><b>have control over the whole kind of AI</b><b>workflows. And you say, the first thing</b><b>is to do this, you're</b><b>looking at this document, the second</b><b>thing, and as part of that,</b><b>take these steps, and you can</b><b>break it down into sub tasks with agents,</b><b>psych. But secondly, even</b><b>if they weren't using psych,</b><b>they showed a improvement. And B, they</b><b>didn't speak about it. But</b><b>this thing will do like AI,</b><b>as we know, we'll do things in a 10th of</b><b>the time, or like 1% of the time that it</b><b>takes a human to do.</b><b>So they didn't speak about that being the</b><b>positive thing that even if this thing</b><b>to come in afterwards, and then make it</b><b>more human. And this is like a classic</b><b>kind of argument that</b><b>you see in businesses that even though</b><b>the Yeah, sure, it wasn't as</b><b>good. And even if it was 50%</b><b>as good, or it gets to 80% as good with</b><b>time and training, that's still way</b><b>better as position that</b><b>you're in in terms of time. So because</b><b>now the human yet, it takes</b><b>five minutes for this thing</b><b>to do an hour long task, and then it</b><b>takes the human another five minutes,</b><b>there's 40 minutes or</b><b>sorry, 50 minutes, if it was like an hour</b><b>versus 10 minutes, that you</b><b>have now to do something extra,</b><b>I don't know why people keep on not</b><b>talking about this kind of stuff. It's</b><b>offensive, really. So I</b><b>feel like, you know, I'm offended. I'm</b><b>offended. This kind of stuff</b><b>was good. But it could have</b><b>been like way better. What we should be</b><b>doing and I put an article</b><b>like on this, like last week,</b><b>is that we should be finding ways to</b><b>improve these models,</b><b>because it is improving instead</b><b>of nitpicking going, Oh, look, it's not</b><b>as good as like a human.</b><b>Yes, you idiots just like cars,</b><b>sorry to the idiots out there. But it's</b><b>just like cars. No, they're</b><b>not idiots. It's just that we</b><b>need to sorry, I'm being really mean</b><b>here. It is Black Friday folks. I don't</b><b>normally am like this,</b><b>but it's sense the passion, the rage, the</b><b>rage, right. But it's just</b><b>like when cars like I want</b><b>everyone to do better. I don't want to</b><b>keep people out or anything</b><b>like that. So I'm actually trying</b><b>to be encouraging you. When cars first</b><b>came out, the biggest complaint was that</b><b>one of the complaints,</b><b>they don't do well on these like roads,</b><b>these cobblestone roads</b><b>and stuff. And then what</b><b>happened when they paved the streets? Not</b><b>only did cars do really</b><b>well, but they had new types</b><b>of transportation buses and motorbikes</b><b>and other things opened up</b><b>that you could never think of.</b><b>Think of the paving of the roads like</b><b>we're seeing with AI here, what more we</b><b>could do. So this is</b><b>actually pretty important, more important</b><b>that people think that</b><b>stuff like this is happening,</b><b>because it's happening in the realms of</b><b>people that actually make</b><b>the decisions in government.</b><b>Right. So we need better examples is what</b><b>I'm saying. Yep. No, the</b><b>answer good call. All right.</b><b>Hit me up with some quick news talking</b><b>about, you know, the</b><b>people who sort of triggered the</b><b>whole this new AI generation, we're going</b><b>back to GPT and open our</b><b>friends 200 million users.</b><b>They've like doubled since since last the</b><b>last fin year, I think it was 1 million</b><b>enterprise users, apparently, which is a</b><b>big 600,000 enterprise</b><b>licenses in April. Yep.</b><b>To a million recently. Are there a</b><b>million businesses out</b><b>there? No, no, it's not. Yeah,</b><b>exactly. A million people or licenses</b><b>them on and even be people.</b><b>There's definitely a million businesses</b><b>out there. So I mean, that's which is</b><b>incredible. Yeah. But</b><b>what's still is perplexing is how much in</b><b>a negative revenue</b><b>driver this business is at the</b><b>moment. And so they're not financially</b><b>doing well, but and they're</b><b>back in the open AI and back in</b><b>the market for capital race. So they're</b><b>looking for $6.5 billion. Is</b><b>that all going for a market</b><b>sort of valuation of over 150 billion</b><b>company. So there's</b><b>various reasons why that could be</b><b>happening. And I haven't looked at</b><b>financials. Like it's well, you're</b><b>overstating. So Amazon</b><b>Amazon didn't make money for a long time.</b><b>Yeah. You know, so they're</b><b>not worried about revenue,</b><b>they're worried about growth. And that's</b><b>fine. Because if you think</b><b>about it, like when you see</b><b>and obviously they don't apply the same</b><b>pricing that they apply to</b><b>folks that use their API's</b><b>when you see the pricing of the API's,</b><b>whether you're using it</b><b>through Azure, in a private kind</b><b>of way where it stays in Australia or</b><b>other countries or using</b><b>it directly with open AI,</b><b>there's a cost that you pay for input and</b><b>output tokens. Even if</b><b>they don't apply that model to</b><b>themselves, I mean, they should there's</b><b>there's an internal cost to</b><b>doing it. There is a cost of</b><b>these things. And if they're only</b><b>charging you 20 US dollars or whatever</b><b>that is in Australia,</b><b>and 30 bucks, there are many people</b><b>probably like you and I that would use</b><b>way more than that, you</b><b>know, in our monthly usage. And they're</b><b>relying on, you know, many people that</b><b>wouldn't. But because</b><b>of that and other things they spend on</b><b>research, no wonder they're</b><b>losing money, but they're getting</b><b>growth. And that's the most important</b><b>thing. Exactly right. I'm</b><b>sticking with the AI, open</b><b>AI guys, one of the co founders, Mr. I'm</b><b>never gonna be able to</b><b>say his name, right? Say it.</b><b>Ilya. Sutskova. Sutskova. Sutskova.</b><b>Sutskova. What a name. Obviously, he, he</b><b>left or a while back. Yeah,</b><b>he did. Started something new. And</b><b>started his own company, the</b><b>Safe Super Intelligence SSI.</b><b>Did you do you remember when he was</b><b>leaving when there was a</b><b>whole like they fired Sam and then</b><b>they brought him back and he was like</b><b>part of that group and Sam</b><b>puts out that like, I mean,</b><b>he's the master of like, for strawberry</b><b>model and stuff, he put out</b><b>a picture of a garden full of</b><b>strawberries and stuff, right. So you</b><b>know, fascinating. And</b><b>then for the whole Ilya thing,</b><b>he put out a tweet where it started off</b><b>with I love you all. I L Y A Ilya. So</b><b>he's a master of like,</b><b>ooh, deception. The master. But did I</b><b>mean that? But yeah,</b><b>what's what's Ilya doing?</b><b>So obviously with his business, I mean,</b><b>he doesn't actually have a product in</b><b>Markier. So this is,</b><b>I mean, this just talks to how much money</b><b>particular states</b><b>getting thrown around at AI</b><b>ideas. He's raised a billion dollars for</b><b>his idea, which is, I</b><b>mean, the product is like,</b><b>is really interesting. And it talks to a</b><b>lot of the points you</b><b>were raising before around,</b><b>you know, safety and alignment, you know,</b><b>so AI supporting companies</b><b>and being risk more risk averse,</b><b>which is which is great. So the product</b><b>idea really, really cool.</b><b>But to be able to raise a</b><b>billion dollars, and this talks to the</b><b>power of the person, right?</b><b>Yeah, such a big influencer in</b><b>the AI space, be able to raise that much</b><b>capital. Oh, it's crazy.</b><b>It's in doing it off an idea,</b><b>but it's not like I mean, he's a founder</b><b>with pedigree, he's helped</b><b>grow that business of AI,</b><b>and he was seen as the the mind of what</b><b>grew that space there. But</b><b>I find it fascinating that</b><b>there's these people that are saying, and</b><b>maybe it's because of the</b><b>restrictive clauses that</b><b>supposedly were there, that were there</b><b>before, supposedly not</b><b>there now, with leaving open AI,</b><b>but the whole no, no, everything's all</b><b>fine here. Like I was doing</b><b>safety research and stuff,</b><b>but I'm just going to go do it outside.</b><b>Yeah, you know, it's kind of</b><b>fascinating. Like I love my</b><b>girlfriend, but I'm going to go love</b><b>another girlfriend,</b><b>because I just have to be outside</b><b>here and stuff like nothing wrong with</b><b>that girlfriend. And</b><b>like, what are you? Anyway,</b><b>people can read between the lines. It's</b><b>going to be interesting what he creates.</b><b>Hopefully, it's not a $1 billion thing</b><b>wasted. Let's hit up the</b><b>trillion dollar companies out</b><b>there. So we've got our Bing has really</b><b>some interesting deep</b><b>fake scrubbing tools, which I</b><b>think also a little bit of the other</b><b>platforms like Google, etc.</b><b>I've already released this.</b><b>So that's in collaboration with Stop NC</b><b>II or NC2. And they're allowing people</b><b>to, I guess, identify,</b><b>to flag and even for the system to</b><b>automatically identify, you know, fake</b><b>content that's going out</b><b>there. And there's a lot of stuff that's</b><b>been happening with</b><b>pornography, etc. has been going</b><b>around quite bad. Very good. Google's</b><b>released a new photo search in currently</b><b>in beta. So for like</b><b>select people out in the US region, so</b><b>essentially in your photos</b><b>app, you'll be able to click</b><b>into the application and do language</b><b>language based search. So</b><b>you could type in, you know,</b><b>what did I eat for when I was in the Gold</b><b>Coast last weekend and</b><b>boom, it would be able to find</b><b>images based on that and show you food,</b><b>etc. So contextual image</b><b>search, which is which is</b><b>quite interesting, no longer you can just</b><b>type in, you know, oh, yeah.</b><b>And painting in the backyard.</b><b>Yeah, I do it currently now because I've</b><b>got a Google phone folks.</b><b>And I can type in things like</b><b>I had a friend of mine, shout out to Rob</b><b>Morris. He rocked up to a</b><b>party of mine, like after I</b><b>requested it because I was like, Hey, can</b><b>you do it? Because like,</b><b>you've got it there. Mr. Rob,</b><b>because he's got armor he had like I've</b><b>been in his place. He has a</b><b>cool thing called the whiskey</b><b>dungeon. And in the whiskey dungeon is a</b><b>night in is it's a night</b><b>suit, like a literal heavy armor</b><b>night suit. Right. And he's telling me</b><b>about chain mail and</b><b>everything. Yeah. Oh, he wore it to</b><b>your house. Remember, he wore it. And I</b><b>went into Google because I was talking</b><b>with a common friend</b><b>of ours and trying to find it and then</b><b>just type in night and it</b><b>comes up. This is even more than</b><b>that. You can actually get into certain</b><b>like phrases and it</b><b>will exactly look it up. So</b><b>fascinating. That's cool. So that's in</b><b>beta at the moment and</b><b>early access for some people who</b><b>have applied for it. And on the crypto</b><b>space coinbase, oh, yeah, conducted a</b><b>transaction managed by</b><b>AI bots. If you saw this, this was that</b><b>this was very interesting.</b><b>Yeah. So they ran using using</b><b>doing the exchange token. So Brian</b><b>Armstrong, the founder of Coinbase ran it</b><b>put a post out of this</b><b>on x good old x God, I hate x but engines</b><b>cannot get bank accounts,</b><b>they can get crypto wallets,</b><b>they can now use usdc on base and</b><b>transact with humans, merchants and other</b><b>ais, which is kind of</b><b>interesting. So these transactions are</b><b>instant global and free. And he ran a</b><b>test and shared this</b><b>out with everyone on the on x as well for</b><b>people to see so</b><b>fascinating, fascinating stuff for you</b><b>know, AI taken over our financial</b><b>decision making processes. But very cool</b><b>to see that in trade.</b><b>I think it's interesting as well. It's</b><b>not just like the</b><b>transaction people typically think of</b><b>like, crypto is only or blockchain tech</b><b>or web three or whatever is only being</b><b>about the transaction</b><b>side of things. And whilst it is in many</b><b>ways, there are other things that</b><b>blockchain is really</b><b>useful for such as being able to record</b><b>for supply chain</b><b>purposes. And this is what one of</b><b>the base use cases of blockchain tech has</b><b>been for supply chains,</b><b>being like beer manufacturers</b><b>recording the quality of items that are</b><b>being used and making</b><b>sure that the process has the</b><b>high quality they need. Having a record</b><b>onto an immutable</b><b>blockchain where it can't be tampered</b><b>with is really key, as I mentioned</b><b>earlier, as well as like how it's going</b><b>to help AI in terms of</b><b>that security side of things. I think</b><b>it's important. But</b><b>transactions is really good too.</b><b>It could be interesting that there will</b><b>definitely be negative</b><b>things that happen as a result of</b><b>this. But we need those negative things</b><b>so we can see those issues</b><b>before they become too big. So</b><b>this is really fascinating stuff. What's</b><b>next? And lastly, I just</b><b>want to talk about video.</b><b>I love that there's a lot of movement in</b><b>the video space, a lot of</b><b>tools that are releasing</b><b>out of the market. But Looma AI,</b><b>definitely one of my favorite ones out</b><b>there. They had 1.5,</b><b>which launched back in August, which was</b><b>better prompting around video generation,</b><b>editing images, etc. But they just</b><b>launched version 1.6, I</b><b>think about a week ago. Okay.</b><b>Which came with a whole bunch of really</b><b>cool camera control</b><b>tools. So imagine now you can</b><b>articulate motions or selections within</b><b>it for the camera. So let's</b><b>say you don't like the video,</b><b>what the heck single frame, you can be</b><b>like, I want you to pan up or</b><b>pan around pan left zoom in.</b><b>So you can actually start interacting</b><b>with the video content that you're</b><b>generating to create</b><b>your final product. Unbelievable. I'd</b><b>love to see very, very cool. Because you</b><b>and I have done this,</b><b>right? Like I want to have like, if I</b><b>take a screenshot of</b><b>something, say to the AI, insert</b><b>this into this image, or maybe you don't,</b><b>you just use an image generator to</b><b>actually like not image</b><b>generator, you just insert it like normal</b><b>ways, like Photoshop or</b><b>Canva. Yeah, you insert that</b><b>into an image generator like this, and</b><b>then you can move around the</b><b>screen, but it's still showing</b><b>your product or something like that.</b><b>Crazy stuff that really,</b><b>and it's not just like,</b><b>saying pan around or pan into that you</b><b>can tell it to like, you know,</b><b>do a slow pan into a slow pan</b><b>out. It's actually controlling it</b><b>meaningfully. Because if you</b><b>just said like, you know, pan</b><b>around to the right, if the camera just</b><b>moves, there's, you know,</b><b>it would be horrible, but you</b><b>can actually control how pansy and how it</b><b>controls the depth of field in that</b><b>motion. It's very, very,</b><b>very, very clever. Fascinating.</b><b>Fascinating. What's next?</b><b>That's it for my side of things.</b><b>Anything you want to call?</b><b>Yeah, I mean, if people are interested in</b><b>the AI guardrails and</b><b>what's going on there, definitely</b><b>join the build club if you haven't</b><b>already, because I'll be</b><b>speaking about it and we'll be</b><b>sharing away for people to give their</b><b>feedback. Speaking of the video stuff</b><b>that you showed there,</b><b>have a look out for what's been going on</b><b>in the gaming space when it</b><b>comes to things like Doom,</b><b>where they're generating as the player is</b><b>moving around, they're</b><b>generating the senior, and it</b><b>gets a bit choppy, but it's improving.</b><b>But literally done a lot</b><b>of demos around even just</b><b>conversation. Yeah, communication with AI</b><b>tools. Oh, yeah, they're no</b><b>longer the NPCs, but NPCs 2.0,</b><b>because you can actually have interesting</b><b>conversations and some</b><b>esoteric like conversation</b><b>with them where they're like, am I real</b><b>or not kind of thing. And</b><b>then Minecraft was a really</b><b>interesting one that you mentioned</b><b>before, what's what's going on there. So</b><b>they someone created an</b><b>environment within Minecraft and had a</b><b>whole bunch of AI bots</b><b>running around. And actually,</b><b>they had to create their own little</b><b>society within the game. And so when he</b><b>had to had got to a point</b><b>where someone went missing, and they</b><b>rallied together to try and</b><b>find the person because they</b><b>felt like they were missing out. So there</b><b>was actual real life sort</b><b>of emotions civilization.</b><b>Yeah, like a civilizations being built up</b><b>in this AI scenario. And then</b><b>they had, they had what was,</b><b>it was like, good versus bad, they had</b><b>some like, had some negative things</b><b>happening to them. And</b><b>how would they react and respond? Yeah,</b><b>it was it was, it was</b><b>scarily realistic and human like in</b><b>terms of actions. Obviously, there was no</b><b>real true emotions or still</b><b>based, it's still an AI tool</b><b>doing its thing. But it was very, very</b><b>cool to watch. I get it talks to the</b><b>potential that within</b><b>video games, which you just touched on,</b><b>like imagine being able to</b><b>jump into a game. I don't</b><b>know, like you think about the cyberpunk</b><b>27 seven or any of those other games</b><b>where the AI tool, the AI</b><b>NPCs in there are actually interacting</b><b>and living their lives. And you're just</b><b>sort of going around.</b><b>It's like free guy. Yeah, like free guy,</b><b>but like real life free guy happening.</b><b>If you haven't seen it, Ryan Reynolds,</b><b>he's an NPC, but he comes to</b><b>realization that he needs to</b><b>change how he does things. And anyway,</b><b>like, you get to that and it gets to</b><b>things like, could you</b><b>have, based on how you play a</b><b>representation of yourself that plays a</b><b>game offline when you're</b><b>at work and stuff and it plays mimics</b><b>like how you play. So</b><b>that's one another would be that</b><b>you have these categories right now. Why</b><b>is he dead? You have you can</b><b>have suicide from depression.</b><b>Yeah, you could have. Are you okay was a</b><b>day that we had yesterday and</b><b>stuff folks or the day before.</b><b>So definitely worth looking at that. But</b><b>you could have right now</b><b>we've got versus others versus the</b><b>MP versus just like one player, which one</b><b>play typically in games is</b><b>just like you just playing</b><b>as a computer. But you could have one</b><b>player now where it could be</b><b>smarter. Like it's like the</b><b>quasi the hybrid that versus AI kind of</b><b>thing. So you can play</b><b>against normal NPCs, you can play</b><b>against like the hybrid AI ones, or just</b><b>versus others. And you'll</b><b>never know like what imagine</b><b>like the lobby of like Call of Duty when</b><b>it's like 11 labs voice</b><b>of someone you think you're</b><b>playing against, I don't know the rock or</b><b>something like that.</b><b>And it's not like it's,</b><b>it's fascinating stuff. We're talking</b><b>about in gaming. What about</b><b>in work? What happens when</b><b>there's like future bots that remote</b><b>workers you think you're</b><b>talking to them and they're doing</b><b>this work and it's not it's really good</b><b>quality work. You don't</b><b>think that it's not human. But</b><b>the person sound that you're talking to</b><b>an emailing and talking to</b><b>online is even like an AI agent</b><b>taking it to the extreme. There couldn't</b><b>be full automation of</b><b>someone's life there while they're</b><b>sitting on a beach in Kosamui. That's</b><b>exactly it. Anyway, we'll be building</b><b>that next week, folks.</b><b>You've just like you just given away all</b><b>IP. So just shout out to</b><b>this looking up the brands here.</b><b>So project said was the name of the</b><b>project that I ran here within Minecraft.</b><b>Was an ex MIT professor, neuro,</b><b>neuroscientist with Dr. Robert Yang. So</b><b>his team at Altair AI</b><b>started focus on building state of the</b><b>art autonomous agents.</b><b>So essentially, there were</b><b>a bunch of agents that were running</b><b>around within Minecraft, creating this</b><b>little civilization from</b><b>scratch. So it was very, very cool to</b><b>watch and recommend jumping on to the</b><b>links will share below</b><b>if you want to check out how AI can</b><b>create its own little civilization within</b><b>Minecraft. Fantastic.</b><b>And with that, I think we should probably</b><b>wrap up given the room is</b><b>going to be occupied pretty</b><b>soon. Yeah, we've got to wrap up. But</b><b>folks, shout out to psych AI, shout out</b><b>to stone and chalk for</b><b>the space shout out to digital village.</b><b>Yeah, and everyone, if you subscribe,</b><b>they really help us out.</b><b>If you have any questions for us, feel</b><b>free to reach out as well.</b><b>If you want to know any more</b><b>anything more about AI, psych, digital</b><b>village, other other things that are</b><b>going on in the space,</b><b>any questions we have, particularly</b><b>around the legislation</b><b>discussions, relation to AI.</b><b>Yeah, feel free to hit us up. It is up,</b><b>folks. We'll see you next</b><b>week. Thanks for watching.</b>